[Brmug-l] Leopard -- first complaint/impression

Fri Nov 2 09:51:57 CDT 2007

Hey Isaac,

Some of my feedback:

My 'update' install on my MacBook pro took about 45 minutes or so, it  
initially told me 4 hours and it kept revising that down.

The dock is more useless now. It's visually useless. I hacked it so it  
would look like one of the side docks so i can now at least SEE what  
app is open at a glance. The grid/fan is useless to me. Maybe i just  
don't get how it's supposed to work. The way they make the icons  
appear from a folder is equally useless and visually confusing to me.  
Like Isaac said, menus is gone from folders - people are clamoring a  
bit to say Apple should have left that feature there WITH 'fan' and  
'grid' as 'menus'.

New folder icons are useless, did i mention that? Now they're just  
BLAH folders.

Several OLD chat apps no longer work properly -  actually, they're all  
old hotline chat apps that i still use with some old gamers. Maybe  
they'd better start using jabber servers instead.

Photoshop 7.0.1 doesn't work anymore for me, although Dreamweaver 6.2  
does. Adobe is going to have some issues with their software  
considering they've been dragging their feet on converting/migrating  
their code - but be warned that some of their software may be an  
issue. Adobe has 6 page pdf explaining what works and what doesn't  
(kind of) and what will need upgrading, etc. http://www.adobe.com/support/products/pdfs/leopardsupport.pdf

My *wonderful* Canon software (scanner) crashes after a scan now. I  
had recently purchased a Canon 8800F scanner (white LED, fast!) and  
compared to my Epsons the software "just worked". Now i'll have to  
wait for the 'update' to fix that.

I can predictably crash iChat with screen sharing between my laptop  
and my wife's iMac who has multiple (2) displays (at different  
resolutions) when i'm switching between my screen and then back to hers.

Microsoft apps: still as they were. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/ if  
you want to check on progress there i presume.

Response is both faster and slower on my MacBook Pro. Generally  
response is much better on the interface - i can tell there must be  
some caching going on when dealing with server connections - as one of  
the problems i've had is it wouldn't 'disconnect' right away... or  
even after 5-10-15minutes of me asking my laptop to disconnect to  
fileshares at work... or even my local shared drive.

Reduced framerates on one of the graphically intense games i play by  
25% or more. I suspect this has to do with 'spaces' but i haven't  
tested with it off. I used to use a 3rd party for 'spaces' so i like  
spaces as it is. It doesn't always predictably do what you expect  
(i've had multiple chat windows for chat open in different spaces  
instead of where i 'put' the chat application for example).

I've had applications running but not "show" anywhere on dock nor cmd- 
tab. Truly hidden?! I had to choose the application again to 'find  
it'. I dont' know if this is a finder issue or spaces issue... but  
even the dock did not show it running (if you can tell with those  
vague blue balls).

Hmm.... otherwise... i like it. Very little actually broke. I don't  
know what Apple is thinking in terms of human interface guidelines  
because they seem to be breaking them left and right in my mind with  
some of their changes.

Time Machine -hmmm.... don't get me started. Nice ideas, i'll use it  
(it's actually worth the external drives on my kids & wife's iMacs)  
but i have issues with several aspects of this that i'll keep to  
myself for the moment and see how they play out. Right now it's  
useless for my laptop.

There are SOOO many good little things to find. In Safari, for  
example, when you close a window (by accident, i've done so many  
times) it now has a command to re-open the window you last closed. In  
the Finder you can now control the 'grid' in the icon view.

So, i know i haven't explained some of what i wrote - i'll leave that  
for BRMUG meetings and Isaac... but i did find one interesting review  
(Ars Technica) by John Siracusa if you can get through it - i found it  
interesting: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/1

Anyhow, overall - i like it - it is actually somewhat faster and more  
responsive and... more stable (at least for me, and i did what  
everyone says not to do: i did an 'update' instead of an archive and  
install! I honestly think there are fewer issues going from 10.4 to  
10.5 than there were 10.3 to 10.4.

-John Q.

On Nov 1, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Isaac Traxler wrote:

> Leopard does not feel any faster/slower on my dual 1.8 GHz G4 desktop.
>
> But hierarchical menus no longer work on the  
> dock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> The rest seems ok so far. I did a fresh install to a new drive with  
> migration from other drive (migration did not happen for some  
> reason). I ran migration assistant after the install and it mostly  
> worked. A lot of stuff seems right.
>
> The install took a llooonnngggg time (over 30 minutes).
>
> iChat now allows multiple connections to the same kind of servers (I  
> can connect to both jabber servers that I need to at the same time).  
> Each different account connecton has completely independent prefs  
> (cool).
>
> Finder windows a lot more boring.
>
> Beyond that, nothing else seems broken or dramatically better  
> (although my initial goal was to return my machine to functionality  
> as quick as possible).
>
>
> Just felt like passing on info. Leopard Tinkertool is not out yet --  
> so I do not have double arrows at both ends.
>
> -- 
> Isaac Traxler -- personal e-mail
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